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Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk is hardly shy and retiring.
He tweets out random financial results, states as fact things that haven't quite happened yet, and regularly speaks his mind.
Yesterday, he described the troubled Boeing 787 Dreamliner's battery pack design as 'inherently unsafe,' which could add fuel to the...ahem...fire.
It came just one day after his offer to help Boeing resolve its problem with fires in the 787's lithium-ion packs, designed by Japanese battery-cell company GS Yuasa.
(It's worth noting that SpaceX, the other company Musk runs, competes directly with Boeing for certain government contracts for space-launch vehicles.)
Musk, who has run Tesla Motors [NSDQ:TSLA] for several years, laid out his thoughts on battery design in a detailed e-mail to the website Flightglobal.
In it, he termed the architecture of the GS Yuasa battery packs supplied to Boeing "inherent unsafe," and predicted more fires from the same causes due to its design.
Specifically, Musk criticized the use of large-format lithium-ion cells "without enough space between them to isolate against the cell-to-cell thermal domino effect."
He also noted that when thermal runaway occurs in the larger cells, more energy is released by the single cell than comes from a small-format "commodity" cell, of the type used by the thousands in Tesla battery packs.
And he went on to highlight what he viewed as the dangers of batteries using those large-format cells, saying they have a "fundamental safety issue" because it's harder to keep the internal temperature of a large-format cell consistent from the center to the edges.
Not surprisingly, Mike Sinnett--Boeing's chief engineer for the 787 project--counters that the company designed the pack to cope with not only a single cell failure but to contain runaway thermal events as well.
The 787 battery problems have sparked a deluge of news coverage, with the Seattle Times noting yesterday that Boeing had numerous problems with the batteries before the fires that led to the grounding of all 787 planes worldwide.
The chemistry used in the Boeing 787 cells is not the same as that used in today's electric cars, a point largely overlooked by many reporters.
But Musk's comments highlight a second issue: the use of large-format lithium-ion cells (some roughly the size of a very thin paperback book) versus the smaller commodity cells (somewhat larger than a AA battery) that Tesla uses.
Musk's critique, although he didn't explicitly say so, could be extended beyond the 787 Dreamliner to indict the pack design of all electric cars that use large-format lithium-ion cells.
Those include, oh, every single modern plug-in electric car except the Tesla Model S.
Tesla Motors is the sole maker that builds its packs out of thousands of small 'commodity' lithium-ion cells (from Panasonic, for the Model S) rather than using hundreds of large-format cells.
Battery-pack engineering is a complex, multifaceted art.
There's the physical design of a large, heavy component that must be engineered into the vehicle's structural design.
There's positioning of the cells inside the pack to protect against thermal runaway.
There's thermal conditioning, in which a pack is passively or actively heated or cooled to keep its cells within a desired temperature range, both extending their life and reducing the chance of catastrophic cell failure.
Each electric-car maker takes a somewhat different approach: Nissan uses just passive cooling in its Leaf battery electric car, but has had no recorded fire incidents at all to date.
It has, however, had problems with reduction in energy capacity early in the life of cars that cover high mileages in high temperatures.
The Chevrolet Volt, on the other hand, uses only two-thirds of its pack energy and has active liquid cooling for its pack (as does the Model S).
So has Musk has implicitly slammed the pack designs of the Nissan Leaf, Chevrolet Volt, and a host of other electric cars with battery packs of 16 kilowatt-hours or more?
If so, is this a good strategy for the CEO of a startup electric-car maker?
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Secondly, I wonder if they are barking up the wrong tree here with the Boeing battery. Seems likely that there is a fault in the charger. This could cause a problem in any battery. Not sure the packing or chemistry make the battery "inherently unsafe."
Lead Acid batteries explode if overcharged. That doesn't make them "inherently unsafe".
Let's see what the NTSB says. They seem to be quite thorough.
Current car companies use Li iron phosphate or Li manganese oxide which don't exhibit these issues.
This just doesn't jive with the announcement on Monday by both the FAA and Japan's Civil Aviation Bureau that the batteries are not the problem here. I'm not claiming that's authoritative, either, just that he's claiming something that people who have presumably seen the actual data and components are completely rejecting as a root cause.
You may be completely correct but can you explain, please? A lot of cognitive dissonance here...
As I commented previously, this will be interesting to see what Boeing comes up with.
True, Elon Musk has a physics degree from the University of Pennsylvania and a business degree from Wharton. I have a minor in Chemistry and a Pharmacy degree too. I would definitly seek advice from Elon Musk for he has helped to engineer the best EV the world has seen. Tesla Model S is way ahead of the big 3 in EV Technology, Not too bad fro a Silicon valley startup.
http://www.rpmgo.com/cars/d/34999-2/tesla_roadster_crash_france06.jpg it appears the batter packs are reasonably tough or well armored.
And his criticism was about large format batteries, and thermal management issues which result. Boeing's batteries didn't fail because someone hit it with a hammer, or jabbed them with metal.
I do wonder how they finished their study so quickly since it started only on January 21. I'll share the news, for whatever it is worth (it's on the Automotive News web site, and presumably many others' as well) but it will be interesting to see what ends up happening here.
I tend to think that Musk will look like an idiot if the problem is indeed elsewhere, but as others have noted, he's also a salesman for his SpaceX company, too, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
So turn the lemon into lemonade and present little Tesla as giant Boeing's saviour with its superior knowledge of batteries.
It's a risky strategy though. Lots of people deeply recent him and will try to use his strategy against him.
Bottom line, Mr. Musk might know what he is talking about.
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