Were you expecting the 2013 Ford Fusion Energi to undercut its nearest rival, the 2012 Chevrolet Volt?
If so, you might be in for a surprise.
Ford has announced an entry-level price of $39,495 for the Fusion Energi in SE trim. That's $350 more than the Chevrolet Volt's starting price of $39,145.
And while you'll be able to benefit from state and federal tax incentives, these aren't as great as on the Volt either. Inside EVs points out that the Volt's larger battery pack allows owners to claim back the full $7,500 government tax credit compared to the Fusion's estimated $3,750, resulting in a net difference of $4,100 between the two.
Another $1,500 will get you a 'Titanium' trim Energi. Ford hasn't yet revealed details on the exact specification of either trim level.
The Fusion Energi will also have a lower electric range than the Volt, at around 20 miles.
Of course, it still scores in other areas.
That large battery pack in the Volt robs the car of a fifth seat, while the Fusion can be considered a full five-seater. It should also beat the Volt's 37 MPG rating in extended range mode, with a figure in the low 40s--shy of the Fusion Hybrid's 47 mpg, just like its C-Max Energi and hybrid siblings.
If the Fusion Energi can deliver on Ford's promise of "over 100 MPGe" combined then it will still be an impressive vehicle--but we'll have to wait and see whether drivers pick it over the Volt, or even the cheaper C-Max Energi.
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Usually the manufacturer of "first" of anything will ask for a price premium.
I would to find out the performance and power spec. I imagine it will be worse than the C-Max sedan and I think it might be heavier as well.
I also wonder how small the trunk would be.
Great! More competition the better.
So far, nobody is willing to beat the Volt in its EV range.
bottonline, PHEV is not a viable product for any auto company, even Toyota lose $5000 per Prius PHEV afte they sold >1,000,000 Prius and they told every advantage of component sharing with regular Prius!
During the battery conference, folks from auto company said that the only reason they make PHEV is because of IP and technology advancement. It is a money-loser for many years!
BTW, so now that GM is losing $30k per Volt insetad of the $49K per Volt or the $250k per Volt earlier? By that logic, as the volume goes up, the loss will be minimized, right? We should keep buying them then...
This midsize plugin hybrid (Fusion Energi) happens to be more fuel efficient (both electricity and gas) than a compact plugin (Volt). It should be the other way around.
1. Does compact size with better performance get better MPG than the midsize with worse MPG? NO. Miata, Mini all get worse MPG than your typical midsize sedan. Even CR-Z is worse than your Prius.
2. You have been side step that performance for "AGES".
Just admit it, you are a Volt hater.
I don't need to waste my time on your hating attitude. Feel free to enjoy your 4-star rated CRAP.
Focus is in the same class as the Cruze. Fusion is a class higher than the Focus. Volt is basically a souped up Cruze with the same torsion beam rear suspension, etc.
Is it surprising that Fusion PHEV cost more than Cruze PHEV?
BMW 1-seris is also a compact car. So is a Mini, they are all sporty smaller vehicles. Smaller car doesn't mean it should be cheaper. Volt has significant upgrade in its driving dynamic and comfort. I have driven the two and there are no comparison.
Class? You mean size. Big difference. Lexus CT200 is nothing more than a fancy interior based Prius. Yet it has worse MPG. Same with HS250, worse MPG. But they all have WAY better sound denting and nicer appointment.
And I don't want to start an arguement over your PHEV or EREV. They aren't the same. Maybe to your NON-engineering believe, it is the same to you. But underneath there are major difference.
Volt is a Chevy, not a Cadillac or Buick. Range and efficiency would drop otherwise.
In engineering term, there is no EREV. EPA and SAE classify Volt as PHEV. EREV is a marketing term and with the introduction of the HOLD button in 2013 Volt, EREV concept is obsolete. It can be driven with gas first.
Fusion Energi has EV Now or EV Later modes. The driver can select the most suitable fuel, based on the driving condition of different section of the trip.
So far, on just about every one of those factos, Volt are miles ahead of the Cruze.
Let us explain it to you this way, your typical PHEV is nothing more than a larger motor and larger battery based on the same hybrid.
When GM used the Cruze platform, it took the frame and some body parts but the powertrain is complete different. Since it is electric, it is far superior in smooth and quietness. By having those features, GM also had to add tons of damping to the cabin to increase quietness b/c electric drives are so quiet. So far, just about every reviews have shown how quiet Volt is (on par with Lexus). Its high tech Dash is on par with CUE as well.
EREV is there to distinguish the point that other PHEV is nothing more than a boosted regular hybrid where Volt's main traction motor is the electric motor. Its electric motor is ALWAYS the main drive shaft. Even with the HOLD button, it makes no difference in drive train, just choices. You could always drive the Volt without charging to make it into a series-hybrid alone...
But the point is that Volt can function with a full battery and NO GAS in the TANK AT ALL. Where other PHEV always kick in the engine during some heavy loading. Volt can stay in EV with all loads.
According to the current definition, if you put a plug into the Honda FCX Clarity(fuel cell car) and make its battery slightly larger, you would have called it PHEV too...
Put in your own zip code.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=33336&id=32484&id=32154&id=33335
What about the rest of the states?
Fusion Energi's national emission should be the same as C-Max Energi (240 g/mi). That's really good for a plugin of this size, considering a compact 4 seater Volt is rated 260 g/mi.
National Emission has NO importantance on individual owners. They can use the same link to figure out their own zip code's emission. Like I listed before, NYC area would put the Volt at cleaner emission level than Fusion Energi. In areas such as Washington, Oregon, California, it will be significantly lower.
So what you have fixed rate? Utility companies charge premium for renewable electricity. If I use your solar electricity during the day time and you charge your Volt after sunset, who should get the renewable green cred?
See the problem with direct clai
PiP reduces emission out of the box, no special electricity required and there is no extra cost to charge within 3 hours. That us the point.
Fusion Energi works the same way but a bit higher in emission and charging time.
I am on fixed rate b/c my family use a lot of power during the day as well. But I still generate far more than I can use.
Also, many power plants (coal) are under-generate at night which means the additional load you add is basically wasted if you don't use it. So, it is even better for the grid to charge at night. And your power generated during the day is actually reducing the power plant loading during the peak demand. More than 1x the cleaner factor.
PG&E doesn't work on credit. It is KWh generated offset a KWh used...
Pip limits the amount of Solar power you can offset to the tiny battery that it has. The smallest battery of all..
If any other auto maker could make a PHEV with 60 miles of "real EV miles", I would have bought that thing instead.
Advantages of the Fusion:
Looks better
Has five seats
Efficiency on gas power
Volt Advantages:
Longer electric range
thanks,
jason p
thanks,
Jason
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