Volt Buyers 'Idiots'? Audi President Is The One Who's Wrong Page 3

Great write-up of this side of the matter - and some very strong points on emissions, in particular.
I do think there's an element of two ships passing in the night, however - de Nysschen warns of the strain of a quick transition to electrics and plug-ins, while you counter that the adoption rate will be slow enough to let the grid adapt. Those points aren't wholly contradictory, if you think about it.
And I do think there might be a problem with every American adding 4 plasma TVs to their house in a short period of time.
A real problem lies in the geography of early adoption, too. California is already near-maximum on its power demands, but would likely have the highest number of early EV buyers as well.
But these are all issues that are important to hash out, as they affect us all, and this is a great forum for doing it.

So, an auto manufacturer gets pedantic and sloppy and Greencarreports responds by ... getting pedantic and sloppy? Where is the data to support the notion that prices won't go up as grids get strained? Where is your data about having to fuel diesel cars by big rigs? Where is the data to support your refutation of Johan's main message; that hybrids simply cost more than diesels due to upfront and disposal costs?
1. California almost went broke because of power price surges and many poor people face cold winters due to rising power prices. Demand goes up and prices go up - If EPRI did not find that, then up is down.
2. Diesel fueling stations are very common in the U.S. and as soon as more diesels arrive (e.g. 335D, A3, Jetta), then they will be everywhere.
3. Johan's main contention is still unrefuted. High upfront cost hybrids and electrics are much more expensive than other small, poor driving econo boxes and those hybrids are equivalent in cost to own of far better driving diesels. Johan's main message is legit: why drive a sluggish, noisy, teetering Prius, when for a similar overal cost to own, you could drive an A3 or Jetta with a similar climate footprint?
The only logical thing is raise gas fees so that we can have wonderful CURRENTLY produced diesels and eventually some better electrics and hybrids. Why is it only the commenters here see both sides?