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Will the 2010 Volkswagen Golf TDI Be Diesel's Biggest Winner?

 
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2010 Volkswagen Golf TDI

2010 Volkswagen Golf TDI

Who buys new diesel cars? It turns out the answer may be the people who've already owned a diesel.

And that could be bad news for European luxury carmakers who are counting on new diesels as the way to meet increasingly stringent new gas-mileage and emissions standards.


That's one conclusion we draw from a couple of unrelated news reports on the prospects for light-duty diesels in the US market.

VW: 30 percent of 2010 Golfs will be diesel

First, if you're eager for a new 2010 Volkswagen Golf TDI, get ready to take a number and stand in line.

VW thinks up to 30 percent of Golf buyers will go for the oil-burner option, just like 30 percent of Jetta buyers and an amazing 50 percent of Jetta Sportwagen buyers.

The comparable figure for Mercedes-Benz is 8 percent of total sales. On the other hand, BMW, whose new 335d and X5 diesel hit the market this year, is seeing lower-than-projected sales of just 3,000 for the year.

But VW diesels have a strong fan base. Month after month, we're amused that our old piece on the 2010 Golf TDI continues to rank among our top five most-read articles.

In part, that's because VW has sold hundreds of thousands of diesels in the US, starting way back in 1978. And unlike Mercedes-Benz, the other traditional diesel vendor, Volkswagen's diesels are actually affordable by real people. Not a single Benz diesel stickers at less than $40,000.

Morpace: New-car buyers interested, uninformed, cautious

The second piece of evidence is a Morpace study on the projected lack of acceptance in the US for new clean diesels. As well as Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen, with new arrival BMW, clean diesels are on tap from Audi (the Q7 TDI is now arriving) and potentially other carmakers as well.

In the report known officially as the Morpace Powertrain Acceptance & Consumer Engagement (PACE) study, the research firm says almost two-thirds of new-car buyers think diesels have "gotten better" over the past decade.

And one third would "consider" buying a new clean-diesel vehicle. Perhaps contrary to VW's experience, Morpace says small-car buyers are least interested in diesels.

Overall, the report paints a picture of buyers who may be open to clean diesel but remain concerned about its cost, the higher cost of diesel fuel against gasoline, and the enduring image of diesel engines as noisy, smoky, and unreliable.

Putting these two together, we'd suggest that the most likely clean-diesel buyer is someone who's previously owned--and liked--an older diesel. And we think Volkswagen, which offers affordable diesels in small, fun-to-drive cars, has the most to gain.

Trouble ahead for some Germans?

The same applies to Mercedes-Benz, though to a lesser extent, just because its cars cost more. But the company introduced the first passenger diesel in 1936 and has been selling them in the US longer than any other maker, so it too has a base of satisfied owners.

For the rest--Audi, BMW, and others--we think it'll be a much harder climb. Despite rave reports that clean diesels offer oceans of smooth torque plus stunning fuel economy, US new-car buyers just don't associate German luxury sports sedans with diesels.

Sadly, we suspect that means we'll have to wait a lot longer for the US version of the 2007 Audi A6 TDI we enjoyed so much. Sigh.

VWvortex reader Bajan2.0T snapped this shot of the badges on the 2010 Golf TDI that was displayed at the Toronto Auto Show.

VWvortex reader Bajan2.0T snapped this shot of the badges on the 2010 Golf TDI that was displayed at the Toronto Auto Show.

[SOURCES: Left Lane News, The Detroit Bureau]





 
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Comments (18)
  1. So much for Diesel more expensive than gas: this morning it was 2.09 versus 2.39 of regular.
     
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  2. It will take something like a federal mandate that pegs the price of diesel to the price of premium gasoline to make diesels take off. That, or a higher gasoline tax (good luck with that one politicians).
    It was unsurprising to see the big 3 grovel in front of Congress and NOT ask for diesel emissions restrictions to be ease for the next 5 years or so in order to bring more efficient engines immediately in order to spur sales and reduce oil consumption.
     
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  3. We took advantage of the $1500 tax credit last year. The price of Diesel is currently lower than gas but no one mentions the fact that there is more tax per gallon of diesel than gas. If you itemize this can be deducted at the end of the year.
    Also now with the new CAFE standards if the big 3 don't adopt more diesels it will be more difficult to meet these higher MPG standards.
     
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  4. I'll be heading to the dealer who has the best price on one of these ASAP. My only beef with this is the usual "US buyers do not associate German performance and diesel economy"...
    GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY A GTD HERE IN THE STATES AND WE'LL PROVE HOW THE TWO GO HAND AND HAND - ONE MISINFORMED PERSON AT A TIME"...!
     
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  5. deisel engines are inherently more reliable than gasoline. The reason for the bad image is that people don't know how to drive deisels,and an avg auto mechanic doen't know how to service it. Back in 1960-1970, it wasn't uncommon for a deisel to go over 200k miles. And, an acceptance problem lies with motor media reporting, telling people untruths as, deisel fuel is expensive and deisel engines are unreliable.
     
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  6. You don't need to be a Scientist to understand, More Torque, More Miles per gallon, Less Polution, Just Go Diesel, you got nothing to lose, just to gain.
     
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  7. Need to drive coast to coast to coast with a heavy load? Diesel.
    Need emergency back up power or people will die? Diesel Generator.
    Need to move tons of dirt and keep maintenance costs low? Diesel dozer.
    Need to cross the Atlantic? Diesel engine.
    Diesel engines are well known in the construction, building, power, marine, and long haul industries. They are far more reliable than gasoline engines, they are better lubricated, better built, and many times more durable.
    What worries me about "clean" diesels is how many people will change their own oil but not change the urea tank? Once the urea tank is empty, it's a dirty diesel again.
    Which, arguably is still cleaner than a gasoline engine given the 20% decrease in gallons burned per unit of distance traveled.
    If you factor in the extra miles per gallon, diesel can be cheaper than regular.
     
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  8. ...need to go to Europe and travelling cheap: diesel.
    Now in 2009, the new generation of diesel cars are non pollution, quiet, and powerful in speed.
    Again outside US, the world are ahead of US in carmaker for the future.
     
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  9. I just bought an 02 Jetta TDI and LOVE it! I cannot wait for the new Golf TDI and will gladly get in line.
     
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  10. 1st Diesel I owned was 1 65 190D. Great.2nd A peugeot Great,3rd a 81 Dasher diesel great, Ford Diesel great,4th an 83 VW Rabbit Turbo Diesel Great
    (4)Kenworth Cat powered diesels great Presntly a 2000 f250 7.3 liter 20MPG @60MPH loaded Great
     
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  11. I miss our 97 Passat TDI. It only had 300k Miles when it was total loss on a head on collision. Still the insurance payed us about $7000.00. My best guess is they know that those German's built their diesels for the long haul. So 2009 came and yes we ranned to the stealership to get our hands on the new Jetta TDI, it's now 20K miles later. Lovely could not imagine a better set of wheels, by the way in 14 months we've always bought our diesel a bit cheaper that regular unleaded gas. If only my other car (German rubbish) wasn't so reliable we'll be looking at the new Gold TDI.
     
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  12. This morning when my wife started her Jetta (diesel). I was standing behind her car, so i expected that awful smell out of the tailpipe. Guess what no awful smell came out. Gotta respect those German engineers, they're the only ones being able to get their diesels approved for the USA; Don't think that the Japanese are not trying. I may be wrong, but i think. Honda was planning to bring one diesel to the USA for 2009, did not happen. I'm guessing the key is certification. By the way a friend of mine owns a Hybrid so he inquired about the battery pack, he was quoted $9500, talk about sticker shock. Hybrid is good tech but too risky too many things can go wrong and they will go wrong.
     
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  13. I would recommend a diesel car as they were award green car of the year for 2010. They beat electric and hybrid cars for sale.
     
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  14. WE HAVE DRIVEN A .SAAB FOR FIVE YEARS WITH NO PROBLEMS MINOR OR MAJOR.
    WE HAVE OUR FINGERS CROSSED UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE COMPANY.
    THE SANDERSONS
     
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  15. When the first moderately priced mid-sized diesel powered car is offered in the US, I will buy one. Not sure if the current marketing results, which are based on small cars and very expensive cars (even the VW Tuoreg starts at more than $43k MSRP), apply to most US drivers.
     
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  16. The other day I saw this when browsing Can It be true? j.mp/8uOh1i
     
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  17. Bought my first Jetta since 1997. The new 2010 Jetta Sportwagen 240hp 2.0 tdi 6 speed manual is a handfull. It gets up to 60 in 8 sec. If you wanna have fun this is the ride, and please the enviro's while at it.
    If you wanna get up to 70 mpg you can drive granny too. It's everything buy awd. And no future in sight. Looked at extra cost to import...Nightmare! Couldn't be done.
    My american die hard buddy said the seats weren't comfortable, nothings perfect...
     
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  18. I bought my first diesel, 8000 miles ago, a 2010 golf TDI with 6M. The car pulls like a 6 cyl and gets 40mpg+ for me in a 80/20 hyway/city mix. Out on the highway this car accelerates quickly, better than any 4cyl and many 6cyls due to the 236 ft lbs torque @ 1700rpm and 3000lb curb weight. The car also handles very well with great steering, sporting rubber (225/45/17 tires) and a sport tuned suspension. The ride is amazingly refined, "audi like", for a small car, very nice. It burns very clean, is smooth operating, and very effective in traffic, its always ready to pass. the new clean diesel from VW/audi is a winner. You can have 40mpg AND good power for everyday driving, its amazing.
     
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