It may be the one question we hear most often here at GreenCarReports.com: Why can't I buy one of those great little fuel-efficient diesels, like they have in Europe?
Take, for example, the ultra-high-mileage Econetic version of the Ford Fiesta, sold in Europe with a 1.6-liter turbodiesel that returns 63 miles per gallon on the European cycle.
Our driver, Michael Frank, got an actual 44 mpg in spirited Econetic driving. But that's still much higher than the 30 mpg city, 40 mpg highway rating for the U.S. version of the 2011 Ford Fiesta.
What carmakers say
We talk to a lot of carmakers, and we can tell you what they think. Before you start flaming us, understand: These are the reasons they give for not offering small diesels. If you want to weigh in, the comments box is below. But don't shoot the messenger, OK?
In their view, there are three main factors working against putting smaller diesel engines into passenger cars and crossovers.
They're too dirty
First, U.S. emissions standards, especially for particulates, are tougher than European ones. All but the smallest diesels have to be fitted with even more expensive after-treatment equipment than Europe requires.
One variants of the Mercedes-Benz BlueTEC system, for example, includes two catalytic converters and an “AdBlue” urea-injection system to clean the nitrous oxides and particulates from the exhaust.
And that gear has to be added to an engine that's 10 to 15 percent more costly to build than a gasoline engine of the same power. Even without U.S. equipment, the Ford Fiesta Econetic costs $31,000 in Europe; the U.S. 2011 Fiesta costs $14,000 to $23,000.
Europe keeps diesel cheap
Second, Europe has taxed diesel fuel at lower rates for 30 years to encourage its use. And it's worked; 50% of new cars there have small turbodiesels. But in the U.S., diesel fuel is the same price or more expensive than gasoline.
So there's no obvious cost advantage, meaning that diesel buyers have to calculate whether a higher purchase price and more costly fuel are offset by the higher fuel economy over the projected life of the car.
And you know how people hate to do math.
Diesel fuel isn't ubiquitous
Third and finally, diesel fuel isn't available to consumers at every fuel station, as it is now in European markets.
Only roughly half of U.S. stations have diesel at all, and of those, only about half have it on the same islands as gasoline. My mum, for one, may not particularly want to hunt for a station, only to have to fill her car out back with the semis.
Think garbage truck
Other factors working against small diesels include public perceptions of diesel engines as dirty and noisy. Think: garbage truck. New ad campaigns by Audi and others are promoting the "clean diesel" concept, but it's a slow process.
And a few buyers may still have residual bad memories of the unreliable GM V-8 diesel engines of 1978-85.
Europeans think it's obvious
But executives and engineers at European makers take a different view. Off the record, they will reel off some combination of the following points:
Have an opinion?
Kumar Posted: 12/8/2009 10:06am PST
I hope that's 31k Euros and not 31k US. As anyone who writes about cars these days know you can't 1:1 compare Euro/Dollar prices on cars like that.
Snorlax Posted: 12/8/2009 10:47am PST
We're being scammed by the fossil fuel cartel. They should have been shut down a long time ago. They're now working on batteries that never run down and never need recharging. Just add water.
We're being scammed. I want my flying car.
Matt Posted: 12/8/2009 11:52am PST
DieselRocks Posted: 12/8/2009 12:05pm PST
"They're too dirty." Really. I guess this is why diesel has won the "Green Car of the Year" award two years running (VW Jetta TDI, 2009; Audi A3 TDI, 2010).
The cost of after-treatment combined with a diesel powertrain remains the same or less than hybridizing a conventional vehicle like a Toyota Camry or Ford Escape.
The cost of diesel fuel relative to the overall cost savings -- due to better engine efficiency -- can be proved by actually doing the math. See www.dieselforum.org for a cost calculator to make the point.
All these excuses for not bringing more diesel to the U.S. market add up to the same old reason why American automakers remain in trouble: they underestimate the American car-buying public. Give people a real choice and more times than not they will make a smart decision.
owlafaye Posted: 12/8/2009 12:11pm PST
•U.S. standards require diesels to be far too clean, and Americans are irrational about emissions (you decide)
The above statements are TRUE...California does not have standards that truly address real emissions per mile driven on one gallon of diesel. A matter of politicians pretending to be engineers.
The failure of American hybrid/economy auto purchases will be blamed on the consumer rather than California and the manufacturers.
More and more truly economical autos will come from overseas and further ruin the American auto economy.
chuck goolsbee Posted: 12/8/2009 3:38pm PST
Another fact about Diesel is that it takes less (displacement) to do the same job. Compare cars that offer both power gas and Diesel power plants: I drive a VW Jettaand my wife drives a Jeep Liberty. My car has a 1.9 liter TDI, and averages 50 MPG. The Gasoline Jetta has a 2.5L engine and gets 25 MPG. The Jeep Diesel is a 2.7Liter engine and gets 29 MPG. The gasoline Liberty is 3.6 liters and turns a pathetic 17 MPG.
Less is indeed more with Diesel.
--Chuck
MPGomatic Posted: 12/8/2009 5:12pm PST
jimbob Posted: 12/8/2009 6:59pm PST
DieselRocks Posted: 12/8/2009 8:16pm PST
Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. If you have ever stood behind a new (model year 2009 and newer) diesel vehicle, you would realize there is no stink, smoke or "typical" clatter so common in older diesel models. Another myth down the drain.
Rich Posted: 12/9/2009 11:15am PST
How did the author get to $31,000? Here is a way to find the price of a diesel. Go to www.ford.co.uk and configure a Fiesta with the different engine options. The difference between the standard 1.4l gas and a 1.4 diesel is 600 pounds. The top end diesel 1.6 Duratorq+DPF+TDCI is 1350 pounds more than the 1.4 gas. Total car price is 3,895 pounds = $22,540 for 76.3 combined mpg (imperial gallon about 20% more than US gallon).
Chris Posted: 12/9/2009 5:29pm PST
The next round of emissions rules will focus on CO2 and those start being phased in by mid-decade.
Bill Posted: 12/13/2009 9:51pm PST
1. Diesels are more costly. yes they are but they also last at least a 100,000 miles longer then gas engines. they also need less maintenance. And the new Euro regulations are not all that much different then the one in the USA.
2. Cheaper diesel in Europe compared to gas. Yes, but many European countries also have a diesel tax on the car. In my area it is about a 800 dollars a year.
3.Diesel not offered in 50% of gas stations. In most stations there are 3 different octane ratings of gasoline offered. 2 would be enough. keep the high and low test gasoline and use the mid octane for diesel.
Bill Posted: 12/26/2009 7:36am PST
Joe Dyck Posted: 1/7/2010 4:25pm PST
marco Posted: 2/15/2010 1:02pm PST
AZ_Utilitarian Posted: 11/14/2010 10:31pm PST
These engines are much stronger to cope with the compression-ignition system so subsequently last 40% 60% longer than gas engines and, you don't have to be a truck driver to appreciate the added bonus of "torgue." Great if you live in a mountainous area. It really is time to move on from "Diesels are dirty, smelly neurosis...and while you are all at it: forgive G.M. for their brief and disastrous flirtation with "dieselising" V8 gas engines circa 1979-1985. Move on people!
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