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Why Can't We Buy Small European Diesels in the U.S.?

 
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It may be the one question we hear most often here at GreenCarReports.com: Why can't I buy one of those great little fuel-efficient diesels, like they have in Europe?

Take, for example, the ultra-high-mileage Econetic version of the Ford Fiesta, sold in Europe with a 1.6-liter turbodiesel that returns 63 miles per gallon on the European cycle.

Our driver, Michael Frank, got an actual 44 mpg in spirited Econetic driving. But that's still much higher than the 30 mpg city, 40 mpg highway rating for the U.S. version of the 2011 Ford Fiesta.


What carmakers say

We talk to a lot of carmakers, and we can tell you what they think. Before you start flaming us, understand: These are the reasons they give for not offering small diesels. If you want to weigh in, the comments box is below. But don't shoot the messenger, OK?

In their view, there are three main factors working against putting smaller diesel engines into passenger cars and crossovers.

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They're too dirty

First, U.S. emissions standards, especially for particulates, are tougher than European ones. All but the smallest diesels have to be fitted with even more expensive after-treatment equipment than Europe requires.

One variants of the Mercedes-Benz BlueTEC system, for example, includes two catalytic converters and an “AdBlue” urea-injection system to clean the nitrous oxides and particulates from the exhaust.

And that gear has to be added to an engine that's 10 to 15 percent more costly to build than a gasoline engine of the same power. Even without U.S. equipment, the Ford Fiesta Econetic costs $31,000 in Europe; the U.S. 2011 Fiesta costs $14,000 to $23,000.

Europe keeps diesel cheap

Second, Europe has taxed diesel fuel at lower rates for 30 years to encourage its use. And it's worked; 50% of new cars there have small turbodiesels. But in the U.S., diesel fuel is the same price or more expensive than gasoline.

So there's no obvious cost advantage, meaning that diesel buyers have to calculate whether a higher purchase price and more costly fuel are offset by the higher fuel economy over the projected life of the car.

And you know how people hate to do math.

Diesel fuel isn't ubiquitous

Third and finally, diesel fuel isn't available to consumers at every fuel station, as it is now in European markets.

Only roughly half of U.S. stations have diesel at all, and of those, only about half have it on the same islands as gasoline. My mum, for one, may not particularly want to hunt for a station, only to have to fill her car out back with the semis.

Think garbage truck

Other factors working against small diesels include public perceptions of diesel engines as dirty and noisy. Think: garbage truck. New ad campaigns by Audi and others are promoting the "clean diesel" concept, but it's a slow process.

And a few buyers may still have residual bad memories of the unreliable GM V-8 diesel engines of 1978-85.

Europeans think it's obvious

But executives and engineers at European makers take a different view. Off the record, they will reel off some combination of the following points:

  • Diesels emit far less carbon per mile traveled (true)
  • Torquey small diesels offer a much better driving experience than hybrids (debatable, but arguably true)
  • The U.S. government should immediately raise taxes on gasoline to encourage diesel adoption (well, perhaps...but find us a politician to lead that fight)
  • U.S. standards require diesels to be far too clean, and Americans are irrational about emissions (you decide)





 
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Comments (18)
  1. "Even without U.S. equipment, the Ford Fiesta Econetic costs $31,000 in Europe; the U.S. 2011 Fiesta costs $14,000 to $23,000."
    I hope that's 31k Euros and not 31k US. As anyone who writes about cars these days know you can't 1:1 compare Euro/Dollar prices on cars like that.
     
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  2. Diesel and gas engines are antiques. When the governments and multinationals stop suppressing inventions and new technology, you'll be able to fill up your car with H2O and run on it all day.
    We're being scammed by the fossil fuel cartel. They should have been shut down a long time ago. They're now working on batteries that never run down and never need recharging. Just add water.
    We're being scammed. I want my flying car.
     
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  3. It's cost/benefit calculation. The european system that taxes diesel far less than gasoline (originally intended for the commercial trucking industry) has created a perverse demand for diesel passenger cars. For europe, cost/benefit works out. For the US, not right now.
     
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  4. I will shoot the messenger. You seem to play back anti-diesel comments from only American automakers. The Euros will tell you quite differently.
    "They're too dirty." Really. I guess this is why diesel has won the "Green Car of the Year" award two years running (VW Jetta TDI, 2009; Audi A3 TDI, 2010).
    The cost of after-treatment combined with a diesel powertrain remains the same or less than hybridizing a conventional vehicle like a Toyota Camry or Ford Escape.
    The cost of diesel fuel relative to the overall cost savings -- due to better engine efficiency -- can be proved by actually doing the math. See www.dieselforum.org for a cost calculator to make the point.
    All these excuses for not bringing more diesel to the U.S. market add up to the same old reason why American automakers remain in trouble: they underestimate the American car-buying public. Give people a real choice and more times than not they will make a smart decision.
     
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  5. •Diesels emit far less carbon per mile traveled (true)
    •U.S. standards require diesels to be far too clean, and Americans are irrational about emissions (you decide)
    The above statements are TRUE...California does not have standards that truly address real emissions per mile driven on one gallon of diesel. A matter of politicians pretending to be engineers.
    The failure of American hybrid/economy auto purchases will be blamed on the consumer rather than California and the manufacturers.
    More and more truly economical autos will come from overseas and further ruin the American auto economy.
     
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  6. I've been driving Diesel cars since the early 80s, and I've driven in every US state except Hawaii, and all the Canadian provinces except PEI & Newfoundland. I have never had an issue finding a station with Diesel. I have only had to fill up at a "truck island" twice in the past 20 years, and both of those times were in the early 80s. These statements about Diesel in North America are myths. Pure and simple.
    Another fact about Diesel is that it takes less (displacement) to do the same job. Compare cars that offer both power gas and Diesel power plants: I drive a VW Jettaand my wife drives a Jeep Liberty. My car has a 1.9 liter TDI, and averages 50 MPG. The Gasoline Jetta has a 2.5L engine and gets 25 MPG. The Jeep Diesel is a 2.7Liter engine and gets 29 MPG. The gasoline Liberty is 3.6 liters and turns a pathetic 17 MPG.
    Less is indeed more with Diesel.
    --Chuck
     
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  7. Be patient, grasshopper. They're on their way. Audi, VW, and BMW have it nailed. Watch what Fiat does, as well as PSA if they hook up with Mitsubishi.
     
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  8. It would be helpful to explain to us dinosaurs... so why, if they're so clean, do diesel engines stink so much more than gasoline-combustion vehicles?
     
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  9. jimbob said: "... so why, if they're so clean, do diesel engines stink so much more than gasoline-combustion vehicles?"
    Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. If you have ever stood behind a new (model year 2009 and newer) diesel vehicle, you would realize there is no stink, smoke or "typical" clatter so common in older diesel models. Another myth down the drain.
     
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  10. "Even without U.S. equipment, the Ford Fiesta Econetic costs $31,000 in Europe; the U.S. 2011 Fiesta costs $14,000 to $23,000."
    How did the author get to $31,000? Here is a way to find the price of a diesel. Go to www.ford.co.uk and configure a Fiesta with the different engine options. The difference between the standard 1.4l gas and a 1.4 diesel is 600 pounds. The top end diesel 1.6 Duratorq+DPF+TDCI is 1350 pounds more than the 1.4 gas. Total car price is 3,895 pounds = $22,540 for 76.3 combined mpg (imperial gallon about 20% more than US gallon).
     
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  11. The US Tier 2 Bin 5 emissions requirements are significantly more rigorous than the current Euro 5 standards with respect to NOx emissions NOT particulates. Both regions are about at parity with respect to the size and volume of allowable particulate emissions.
    The next round of emissions rules will focus on CO2 and those start being phased in by mid-decade.
     
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  12. Your comments are somewhat off the mark.
    1. Diesels are more costly. yes they are but they also last at least a 100,000 miles longer then gas engines. they also need less maintenance. And the new Euro regulations are not all that much different then the one in the USA.
    2. Cheaper diesel in Europe compared to gas. Yes, but many European countries also have a diesel tax on the car. In my area it is about a 800 dollars a year.
    3.Diesel not offered in 50% of gas stations. In most stations there are 3 different octane ratings of gasoline offered. 2 would be enough. keep the high and low test gasoline and use the mid octane for diesel.
     
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  13. Hey bill gas stations don't have a seperate tank for mid-grade. Low octane gas and high octane gas from the seperate tanks are mixed while being pumped and that's how mid grade gas is made and sold.
     
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  14. I think the EPA needs to lighten up on NOX emissions. The Honda Insight 2000-2006 models used "lean burn" changing the fuel ratios from 14:1 to 26:1 under lighter load conditions, giving a huge boost to fuel economy. True, more NOX is produced, but outside of a large city (or Europe) this would be acceptable. If most ultra low emission type vehicles were allowed to do this, it would result in a huge fuel savings. In fact, my Prius engine runs a lot of time, just to keep the catalytic converter up to temperature, which wastes a lot of fuel.
     
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  15. Cost/benefit? COST/BENEFIT!!?? There is no way to recover the cost of a Prius purchase when you consider the average return on investment of a gas equivalant (say, a Corolla) would be about 15 YEARS! I would much rather have a diesel than an electric car. The carbon footprint to build a Prius is HUGE (Batteries, Rare earth metals, Copper) No one talks about it because the "green" establishment doesn't want their apple cart upset. Not to mention most people don't keep a car even 5 years to pay off a loan. And we haven't even mentioned the cost to replace batteries and the labor (licensing, training, hazmat disposal of used batteries, transportation, etc, etc) to do so.
     
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  16. Specialized Hybrid power trains instead of Diesels allow the auto manufacturers a 15-20% greater profit margins and dealers a guaranteed 15 year parts and maintenance contract. No body wants to upset that apple cart. Big Oil certainly wants you to buy more of their product. And who writes the Laws? The Public? Guffaw...Ever notice that the politically powerful Railroads are unaffected by emissions? And why would Chrysler choose to sell high mark-up luxury 15 MPG diesel pickups, but not the Fiat line of low-mark-up economy 70 MPG turbodiesels? The LAWS are written to protect BUSINESS profits.
     
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  17. As there is such a massive discrepancy between gas prices between the U.S and Europe, Americans have traditionally gone down the gasoline-alley. For years I remember a gallon of gas costing around 92cents per gallon while its European/imperial counterpart was costing at least quaduple that, albeit for a 20%larger fill. So You saw gas engines (struggling to power) massive trucks, stationary generators, agricultural tractors and dinosaur-sized cars. In recent years Americans have seen the folly of this practice, throwing/squandering the precious fuel like it was no more value than horse-piss. Still...You (Americans that is,) have issues (no pun intended) with using diesel power in small to compact cars. Don't you people want to achieve 50-70?
     
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  18. m.p.g.? When you consider the horrendous mileages you cover...for all the neurosis about emissions, DIESELS BURN CLEANER...there are no high-tension electrics to worry about, most people can do their own maintenance (oil, fuel and air filters and a change of oil...!)
    These engines are much stronger to cope with the compression-ignition system so subsequently last 40% 60% longer than gas engines and, you don't have to be a truck driver to appreciate the added bonus of "torgue." Great if you live in a mountainous area. It really is time to move on from "Diesels are dirty, smelly neurosis...and while you are all at it: forgive G.M. for their brief and disastrous flirtation with "dieselising" V8 gas engines circa 1979-1985. Move on people!
     
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