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2011 Nissan Leaf Long-Term Update: 25,000 Miles, No Woes Page 2

 
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2012 Nissan Leaf (RHD)

2012 Nissan Leaf (RHD)

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Battery Capacity Loss

While on the subject of range and battery capacity loss however, it’s worth noting that we don’t have access to any CAN-based state-of-charge gauges for more accurately recording the real capacity of our Leaf’s battery pack.


Instead, we are only basing our experience on actual range, and the number of bars displayed on the car’s battery capacity gauge. At the moment, we have all 12 still lit. 

We suspect the following factors have come into play, helping the battery pack stay healthy.

  • The battery is rarely run down to the low battery warning signal, has only experienced very low battery warning once or twice, and has never hit the fabled ‘turtle’ low power mode.
  • Where possible, the battery is only recharged to 80 percent. 
  • The U.K., like the Pacific Northwest, has a very temperate climate, with this past summer particularly cool.  For the majority of the summer, temperatures have stayed well below 80 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s well below the 110+ degrees suffered by some ‘wilting’ Leafs in Arizona earlier this year. 
  • The Leaf is never left fully charged for more than three hours, and is used daily, resulting in very minimal self-discharge.

Durability

With the months and the miles passing by, our stock 2011 Nissan Leaf has stood the test of time fairly well, coping with two adults, two dogs, and two children. 

While the white recycled-plastic seats are still coping well with heavy use, the center armrest, as well as the door pulls, are starting to look decidedly dirty.

Regular detailing has kept the rest of the car clean, although an upgrade to heated leather seats is likely to happen some time next year. 

Outside, paintwork has remained in good condition, with only a few scratches to add to the list of carwash-inflicted marks from earlier in the year. 

Performance, Handling

As noted above, the new tires--added at 16,000 miles--seem to have really improved the Leaf’s road manners and handling. 

Braking is more controlled, while body roll seems less noticeable than before. 

The car is quieter too, thanks to reduced road and tire noise. 

With steering, suspension, and braking systems now truly bedded in, the Leaf is a real joy to drive.

Our Verdict

2011 Nissan Leaf: One Year Drive Report

2011 Nissan Leaf: One Year Drive Report

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Without the high temperatures known to influence battery aging, our Nissan Leaf is still operating well within our own--and Nissan’s--expectations.

Like we’ve said before, Nissan’s Carwings system is the weakest part to owning a Nissan Leaf. 

Not only is its communication to the car problematic, its knowledge of charging stations poor, and its range prediction troublesome, but the lack of multiple charging timer slots per day means that those charging more than once per day have to manually activate charging.

There’s also no way to activate an 80 percent charge without setting a charge timer, resulting in unnecessarily charging to 100 percent when an 80 percent charge would suffice. 

In addition to the poor carwings system, we feel Nissan should move the charging door release somewhere nearer the main console in the next-generation Leaf. Its current location--near the hood release--is an uncomfortable and unusual place to put something used once or more per day. 

Finally, the interior needs improving to make it more durable for everyday family life. 

Will we keep it? 

Absolutely. 

Our Leaf has provided everything we’d want from an electric car, and to date, is far better than any other electric car we’ve owned. 

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  1. My LEAF also just turned 25K miles on the odometer. Zero problems and zero maintenance costs...my tires are still in good shape. My "fuel" costs have been a little over 2 cents per mile vs 24 cents per mile on my gas car. Over my 18 months ownership, I have driven 92% of our miles on the LEAF and 96% of our trips have been in the LEAF. FANTASTIC CAR!
     
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  2. Although we have a little over 8,000 miles I have to agree it's been a great car for us - and we live in Phoenix, AZ area.
     
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  3. Nikki - It is possible to charge the LEAF to 80% by default whenever you plug in without having to worry about the timer. See the set up instructions here:
    http://sfbayleafs.org/ev-resources/leaf-tips-tricks/charge-to-80-percent/
     
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  4. Marc,

    Great -- but that means it charges when the car is plugged in, right? We need to make use of TOU metering in the U.K. (Known as economy 7). It reduces the cost of charging at night by at least a half.
     
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  5. Yes, but if you only use one timer, you can use the 24-hour 80% setting when away, but it will require that you turn switch timers when you charge away from home.

    Not a bad idea, anyway, since if your car gets unplugged while away and charging on the timer-override button it won't start charging automatically again.
     
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  6. Great report. I think I'll try the Michelin Energy savers on my Prius.
     
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  7. The Michelin Energy Saver tires seem to be very good on any car - the guys on Prius Chat have had good results. The only downside is their high price. Good Year FuelMax tires are cheaper, but it seems that their quality and fuel economy isn't quite as good.
     
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  8. Once you go Michelin, you won't go back to anything else... :)

    Yes, you have to PAY the premium for Michelin.
     
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  9. Great report Nikki! my LEAF "only" has 23,000 miles and like you; I report no issues. I do have a SOC meter that tells me I have lost "about" 2-4% (hard to say because it varies WIDELY) most of the time. I don't drive as much regularly so can't really say that my range is less than what it was when new. Either way; as I had hoped, quick charge stations are being deployed which has moved my LEAF from "town car" to "regional car!"
     
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  10. Nice to see this report. I just passed 15k in less than a year of ownership, running a very similar commute and charging schedule like the one reported. Great to hear things are still going well for you guys at 25k! I didn't have any loss of battery showing up in the 15k diagnostic, but I've been quick charging about once per week lately, so I'm curious to see the long term effect of that.
     
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  11. Congrats on the milestone, Nikki!
     
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  12. I LOVE my 2011 Leaf. It's much more reliable than a gas-powered car because it's so much simpler, and given that I plan ahead and don't try to drive beyond it's range. It has over 19,300 trouble-free miles so far, and I think I'll keep it another 19 years. I expect the battery to outlast the car.
     
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  13. Great report, Nikki. I'm a Leaf owner living in the the US Pacific Northwest (Seattle). Our Leaf has just crossed 20,000 miles since June 30, 2011.

    I used to charge to 100% by default but found I rarely needed the whole charge (unless it was winter time), so I set the car to default to 80% and press the override button on the rare occasion I need the full 100%. I also quick charge a few times a week, but have never seen battery temps below 4 bars or above 6 bars.

    My experiences exactly mimic yours--no apparent range degradation from when the vehicle was brand new.
     
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  14. Great report Nikki.
    My Leaf has just got 24,000 on and it's ultra reliable. Everything you say in your report is right. The best thing is I don't have to put fuel in it. No battery degeneration. It seems to do the same miles I had when I bought it and it gets better all the time. All you Leafers check my video out on Youtube - Nissan Leaf Road Trip. I think you've seen it Nikki.
     
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  15. Michael, are you in the Pacific Northwest as well?
     
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  16. Sorry George, no. I live in Ilkley in Yorkshire, England.
    It's nice to see people talking about the car from all around the world.
     
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  17. Thanks for the tip regarding the Michelin Tyres. I'll lok for those when the time comes for my LEAF. I just went past 17,000 miles yesterday.

    Other than an intermittent passenger door speaker (which recently got replaced under warranty) I've had trouble free driving with my LEAF. Being the first generation LEAF and first year of manufacture I expected to be visiting the dealer often. It's great to see the reliability where it is in such an early model vehicle.

    I have seen slight range degradation, it's hot in Tennessee (but nothing like what is experienced in AZ). I estimate about 8% degradation at 15 months.
     
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  18. Just FYI, Energy Saver and HydroEdge tires are no longer made by Michelin (though still have limited availability in tire shops.) They have both been replaced by Michelin Defender combining great features from both. The new tire is amazing if you believe all the marketing hype but it truly is and it's got the 90K mile warranty to boot :-)
     
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  19. Our Leaf has been wonderful also especially considering the recent gasoline price spike. You state "Without the high temperatures known to influence battery aging", did I miss something? Did Nissan come out and admit this? Would like to know as I have lost 2 bars here in the California desert at 10,000 miles.
     
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  20. That's one deservedly happy driver
     
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