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In regeneration, the maximum is 50A, but JoeS points out that in the extra-regeneration "B" mode on the gear selector, lifting off completely registered 104A--so the 'i's regeneration effect is quite strong, at two thirds of the power it can put out.

It also doesn't use much energy when rolling--another user, Wee John, recorded only 70 amps of current at 77 mph. So as with any car, it's the acceleration (and up-hill roads) that really uses the energy, while constant travel on flat ground can be quite efficient.

In fact, the car uses so little energy at around 20mph on flat ground, you could theoretically drive around 500 miles!

Many are buying off the lot, for a discount

It's not the same for all owners, but there seems to be a theme that 'i' buyers are ordering cars, getting bored of waiting for delivery, and then buying cars off the dealer lot.

In many cases, this isn't much of a problem anyway, as slow sales means some dealers are struggling to shift the cars--and plenty of buyers are getting hold of the car for $1,000 (or more) under MSRP.

Few call it the 'i'!

We all know it, even if few of us admit it: 'i' is a stupid name for a car. It gets lost in lines of text, it sends computer grammar-checkers crazy, and it even sounds odd when dropped into a spoken sentence.

'i-MiEV' (pronounced eye-meev) isn't much better, but it's easier to say, more distinctive when written and above all, it's what many of the owners seem to call it--regardless of their locale.

It's difficult getting cars...

For those near a dealer that sells the i(...MiEV), it's great getting those discounted cars. But for some, like those in some midwest states, there's no such thing as a nearby dealer. With the best will in the world, it's hard to go out and buy a car that you have to travel hundreds of miles to even test drive.

Generally positive

As you can see, from an owner's perspective there's not a great deal to dislike. i-MiEV owners, as with many other electric car owners, seem to be fairly educated on their purchase and the Mitsubishi is meeting their expectations.

Do you own, or regularly drive a 2012 Mitsubishi 'i', or are you interested in owning one? Let us know your thoughts below.

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Kent Beuchert Posted: 7/19/2012 9:37am PDT

As a onetime inferential statistician, as well as an observer of human behavior, I can say that when a new technology has arrived, be it PC computers, cellphones, whatever, the opinions of enthusiastic early adopters must be taken with a grain of salt : they are less likely to voice complaints than those who follow later on. Part of it is because people often don't like to admit that they had overrated the product, and part of it is to not appear to have been taken, since the first new technology products are usually pricey. What's needed for product research (companies want to know the truth so they can avoid spending a lot of money pushing a product that will flop) are test subjects with no opinion of the product, good or bad.

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John Briggs Posted: 7/19/2012 11:24am PDT

Interesting.

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Antony Ingram Posted: 7/19/2012 11:54am PDT

I'm aware of these factors Kent, though it's worth asking the question of whether owners of the 'i' are *likely* to find much to complain about in a car they do relatively short distances in.

There were occasional things that 'i' owners didn't seem to like, but never in great enough quantities to assume that all owners felt the same way. In contrast, the selection of points raised above seemed to be generally consensual.

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Stuart Humpert Posted: 7/19/2012 9:40pm PDT

Interesting and realistic take you have. Wonder how well it applies to LEAFers now, given the battery issues and Nissan's stonewalling.

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John Briggs Posted: 7/19/2012 11:25am PDT

Antony (no "h"),
Thanks for putting this great article together. You don't hear much about the "i". It is nice to know what is going on with it.
John C. Briggs

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Antony Ingram Posted: 7/19/2012 11:52am PDT

Thanks John. Ideally, I'd like to hear from 'i' owners directly rather than plunder their collected thoughts from a forum, but they're harder to track down than Leaf, Volt or Tesla owners!

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John Porter Posted: 7/19/2012 12:49pm PDT

Here's one owner... Have had the Miev for about three months now. When comparing the electrics "back then", I liked the roominess and versitility of the inside. It's range is perfect for our needs around town. It's a pleasant little car to drive - peppy and quiet.

Another big consideration was the future. The Miev has the backing of Mitusbishi -a huge company with lots of resources. They are strong in automotives, electrical equipment, and own their battery company. They have recently reiterated their comittment to electrics and hybrid technology. They will be around in 10 years - how about the other electric makers?

In summary, I love the car and look forward to many "free years" of driving. (We have our own solar)

No regrets !

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Danny Santiago Posted: 7/19/2012 1:40pm PDT

Nice! I hope to be in your shoes someday.

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Antony Ingram Posted: 7/19/2012 11:50pm PDT

Thanks for your comments John - interesting to read.

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Erik Roberts Posted: 7/20/2012 12:11am PDT

Good luck to you John but you may be wrong about Mitsu. Their automotive division has been in shambles for years and their switch to EVs and some hybrids is their last hope to stay around past this decade. Mitsu will have to do better with the IMiev or other new EVs soon or be road kill as the big guys get their EV groove on later this decade.

Ford, Nissan, and Toyota aren't going anywhere regardless of how their current EVs do on the market. Perhaps you are referring to Telsa or Coda. Coda will for sure be code blue within a few years but Telsa will likely survive and thrive in one way or another for many years, decades to come.

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Dan Small Posted: 7/19/2012 4:33pm PDT

I purchased my i about a month ago after test driving the Volt. I previously owned a smart car. I love the i for its open cabin and simplicity. Its range remaining algorithm is spot on and I routinely have a range in the mid eighties. Like the smart car I wish they hadn't used narrower front tires which does affect the cornering and stability but that is really my only negative. I highly recommend this car.

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Antony Ingram Posted: 7/19/2012 11:53pm PDT

Thanks for the feedback Dan, nice to see some 'i' owners coming out of the woodwork!

As with the smart, the narrow front tires do have a noble cause, as tall-ish, narrow vehicles like the 'i' and fortwo aren't the most likely to keep four wheels on the asphalt in hard avoidance maneuvers. The makers have wisely decided that a bit of push at the front is better than potentially rolling!

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Jason Dunham Posted: 7/23/2012 7:44am PDT

Dan clearly the i is geared towards effeciency rather then sport however Car and Driver experimented with different tires on the Leaf and found that by switch the tires you could make the Leaf a lot more fun to drive. Have any i owners done similar experimenting?

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Eddie Fears Posted: 7/20/2012 8:23am PDT

Like the car. It all about price.

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robby kinsey Posted: 7/20/2012 1:55pm PDT

You must be logged in to post your comment.yes i own one. i drive it 60 miles each day. fantastic car.

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Roy Harvie Posted: 7/21/2012 10:10pm PDT

I think it is important to note that the battery in the "i" is lithium titanate, and therefore has extreme life cycles and fast charge capability. This can be fast charged as often as you like without worry of battery degradation.

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Xiaolong Li Posted: 7/22/2012 1:45am PDT

I don't own a MIEV, but I am interested in it.

I have 2 questions and 2 comments.

1. How does the car handle on the hwy with a lot of wind and high speed cornering? I am curious since the the Miev looks fairly tall and narrow.

2. Has anyone from AZ check the battery life issue? MIEV is using a fan cooled battery pack. Under high AZ heat and faster charging, will the heat cause any permanent damage like the Leaf?

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I checked the price of the standard EVSE. The dealer wants $1,380. That is EXPENSIVE in comparing with Volt, Leaf and Focus EV's stand EVSE.

I check the performance number of the MIEV. It feels a bit "under powered" to me especially under a full load.

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Martin Winlow Posted: 7/24/2012 6:41am PDT

Hi - There is a great deal of baloney rewritten in the press lately about charging EVs. Everyone seems to be saying you must have an EVSE (Electric Vehicle Service Equipment - i.e. a dedicated mains connection point) for your EV. This is nonsense. EVRERY production EV thus far can be charged from an ordinary domestic socket - but - be prepared for a wait if you do so. A full charge of the iMiev at 110V would take about 10 hours. But if you only do the 35-odd miles a day that the average driver does this would fall to only 4 hours or so. Treat it like your mobile phone and plug it in when you gat home and you just don't have to worry about it. It'll be fully charged and ready to go again in the morning.

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Martin Winlow Posted: 7/24/2012 6:45am PDT

Antony, Thank you for the well researched (with links) article. It makes a change. MW.

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Ule Amra Posted: 7/25/2012 1:21pm PDT

I'm not an owner just yet, but should be in a few weeks - per my dealer (who finally got the VIN), the car's built and ready for transfer to port, should leave Japan by the end of the month. So I've been one of those waiting on an order, but the local dealer doesn't have them on the lot. I don't understand why Mitsu shipped unsold cars to sit as white elephants at dealerships in California or Oregon before fulfilling all their preorders (my order was placed 4 months ago), thereby annoying both customers and dealers.

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Ule Amra Posted: 7/25/2012 1:32pm PDT

Compared to the LEAF, I really liked the i-MiEV's simplicity, utility, and value. I've only seen a few reviews that mirrored my initial reaction on sitting in the car - this is the EV equivalent of the original VW Beetle or Citroen 2CV, which is exactly what I wanted. What pushed me across the finish line was Mitsu's decision to offer the L3 charge port on the base model for $700; it strikes me as an important option to leave open for the future, and Nissan only offers it in a car that costs nearly $7500 more. Yes, the LEAF's a spiffier package, but for that kind of money, just how much entertainment or luxury do I really need for a short commute or a shopping run?

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Ule Amra Posted: 7/25/2012 1:54pm PDT

On the utility side, I'd note the i-MiEV sits four adults in reasonable comfort (the back seat has real space, though it's a pretty thin seat cushion), and a "magic" 13+ cu.ft. trunk (cuz from the interior and the outside it's hard to see where that much space could be hiding - 30% more than a Volt!). Fold those seats down (which a Volt can't) for a small-SUV's worth of cargo capacity - over 50 cu.ft. w/a full-width level floor (unlike the LEAF or Focus-E). I expect this to be our main weekend car as well as my commuter, good for any shopping or entertainment, since we live in a town with a small footprint. To leave town, we have a 2005 Prius, which is about to get a lot less use.

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