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E85 Now Harder To Find Than Electric Car Charging: Here’s Why

 
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Despite millions of dollars of commitment from automakers like Ford and General Motors, finding somewhere to fill your flex-fuel car with E85 is now officially harder than finding somewhere to recharge a plug-in car. 

In fact, according to Bloomberg, the number of electric car charging stations in the U.S. outnumbers E85 filling stations by two to one, despite a total of 7.6 million flex-fuel vehicles on U.S. roads today. 

But if so many automakers have now embraced flex-fuel technology, why are there fewer than 2,500 gas stations in the U.S. that offer E85?  And what does it mean for the future of biofuels? 


Ethical issues for ethanol

Around the world, most ethanol is produced from either corn or sugar cane. 

Although around 95 percent of all E85 is produced from domestically-farmed corn, some academics question the ethics of producing fuel from food crops when the world’s population is struggling to feed itself. 

FlexFuel badge on E85-capable 2009 Chevrolet HHR

FlexFuel badge on E85-capable 2009 Chevrolet HHR

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Moreover, in countries like Brazil -- where rainforests are being illegally cleared to make way for more biofuel crops -- the demand to grow biofuel crops is having a detrimental effect on indigenous flora and fauna. 

And for some religions, there’s even ethical questions that suggest using Ethanol-based fuels is nothing more than a sin

Subsidies, import protection to end

Earlier this summer, the U.S. Senate voted to end subsidies for the production of ethanol in the U.S, killing the 45-cents-per-gallon ethanol blending credit that farmers and ethanol producers had been able to claim. 

At the same time, the U.S. Senate ended the 54-cents-per-gallon import duty on ethanol imports, making it cheaper to import E85 from outside the U.S.

Sadly, importing ethanol means facing the same problems as buying foreign oil, including being subjected to massive price fluctuations, not to mention facing the number of political and ethical challenges associated with buying ethanol from countries like Brazil. 

In short, ethanol has become a political hot potato. 

E85 station in Los Angeles

E85 station in Los Angeles

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Cheaper, but less energy

This summer, the price of corn-based ethanol prices reached a three-year high, driven in part by a lower-than-expected corn harvest yield.

Secondly, E85 contains less energy per gallon than gasoline. As a consequence, anyone driving a flex-fueled car on E85 will discover that they can’t travel as far on a full tank, meaning they’ll have to fill up more often. 

And that’s the double-whammy. When ethanol was considerably cheaper than gasoline, people didn’t mind filling up more often if they could get substantial savings. But with E85 becoming increasingly expensive, flex-fuel drivers are happy to use gasoline instead.

Flex-fuel cars: no range anxiety

As the name suggests, flex-fuel vehicles can use gasoline, E85, or a mixture of the two as fuel. 

2009 Chevrolet HHR E85

2009 Chevrolet HHR E85

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As a consequence, there’s no onus on the car driver to fill up on E85. And unlike plug-in car drivers who have to plan their longer trips to include somewhere to charge up, flex-fuel drivers just stop whenever they come across a gas station, regardless of which fuel is sold. 

In fact, until carmakers started labeling them with "FlexFuel" badges and fitting bright yellow gas caps, hundreds of thousands of drivers of such vehicles had no idea they were driving a car that could run on anything other than gasoline.

 

For a Flex-fuel driver, finding somewhere to refill that sells E85 isn’t a prerequisite of making a long-distance trip, while electric car owners need to find somewhere to recharge for trips beyond the range of their car. 

Do you drive a flex-fuel car? How often do you fill up on E85, and how often do you fill up on gasoline?

Let us know in the Comments below. 

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  1. Isn't it true that E85 is called E85 because its 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline? I've also read that the only reason they add gasoline is to keep people from drinking it, because it's corn liquor a.k.a moon shine. E85 is just a waste, you can't find it, it's less efficient, it's made with food, it's 15% gasoline, Ect. Maybe manufacturers could lower the cost of EVs if they'd stop wasting money on E85.
     
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  2. E85 is the addition of alcohol to gasoline; not the other way around. The addition of gasoline to alcohol production is to distinguish it from consumption and for fuel.

    E85 derived from waste material; you can find it although not as abundant in certain areas, but the same goes for electric chargers; alcohol is not less efficient IF you know how to use it; corn-food-production accounts for single-digit percentage of all corn production. Most corn production is feed for livestock, which by the way is damaging to livestock; the cost of E85 has no reflection on the cost of EVs.
     
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  3. I didn't try to suggest in what order E85 was mixed. And yes I know E85 costs have no effect on EV prices, I was just doing a bit of wishful thinking.
     
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  4. Well then... pardon my correction.
     
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  5. Yes, you CAN find E85. I haven't purchased gasoline in three years. To find an E85 station, simply go to http://e85pices.com and click in your state, then click on "state stations" to see the list of all the stations in your state. My state, Michigan, has 143 stations, and I'm never more than about 20 miles from one. I plan my routing to ensure I fill up at an E85 station regularly. This morning I paid $2.99 a gallon. Yes, you can find e85 stations across the midwest, and now expanding, with a total of 2,863 stations in the USA today, and more added each week.


    or click on the "map" button at the top of the page.
     
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  6. Relax Jim. The only reason you find E85 in your area is precisely because you are in the Midwest. The only place I found E85, and my rental was ready for it, was in Iowa, surrounded by corn fields. In the rest of the country, they are numbered. And with the subsidies gone, so will E85.

    Let's face it; if you need the internet to find a station.....
     
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  7. The same goes for electric charging stations; it is a process...
     
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  8. And how much oil (in addition to our subsidies) was used to grow and process that corn... what a scam. "They"'ve been talking about using switchgrass instead of corn for years now. Whatever happened to that. I don't give a shyet though - enjoying my LEAF and my solar panels in the meantime while the scammers are destroying this country of ours.
     
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  9. And how much oil/coal was used to make those solar panels? ;)

    This is what is wrong with this website and others on "green" tech... always pointing at the other "green" tech and soiling them as though you have taken the high road while the others have not.
     
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  10. Gentlemen gentlemen, relaxxxx and unsoil yourselves. It's a beautiful day here in the High Desert of California today, and I'm sure one of the many solar installers will add a new multi-kWh unit here today. E85, unfortunately...not so much.
     
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  11. E85 can be made in your backyard or garage if you have one. ROI is pretty damn impressive on it as well. :)
     
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  12. Recent studies have shown that E85 generates more energy than it takes to process it. Something around 38 percent. Solar panels are good as long as they are made in the USA. If you buy the Chinese ones, you are helping to pollute the environment because China has no pollution regulation. Plus you are funding slave labor and the denial of human rights. Fuel made in the USA is awesome. Better than paying another country for it and sending our wealth there.
     
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