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Ding-Ding-Ding! Electric Cars Likely To Be Made Noisier By Law

 

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In one particularly hilarious scene in the TV show Weeds, Mary-Louise Parker’s soccer mom/drug dealer character inspires a scary drug lord to buy several Toyota Priuses after he successfully carries out a drive-by shooting while riding in hers. 

The selling point? The quietness of the hybrid. “Good for sneaking up on mother******s,” he cackles.

That might no longer be the case with a piece of legislation that recently passed the Senate and looks to be cleared for approval in the House. The Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act would require electric cars and hybrids to make noise, and would fund the Department of Transportation to create a set of rules for automakers, who would be allowed some leeway in how they carry out the guidelines.


Green cars like the Prius don’t make noise when running off their batteries. Whether you have an armed drug dealer as an enemy or (more likely) happen to cross the street without looking, hybrids are more likely to hit you than regular cars, especially when operating at low speeds when gas engines aren’t engaged, according to a study by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. All-electric vehicles like the 2011 Nissan Leaf could be even more of a threat.

New bill could make hybrid cars noisy to protect blind

New bill could make hybrid cars noisy to protect blind

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Of particular concern was the potential danger to blind pedestrians. But researchers and writers have also challenged that study, saying the methodology was flawed.

Automakers have tried their own cures for the issue. The 2011 Chevrolet Volt has tried to ward off this problem with a quieter horn built into the car — you pull the turn signal towards you, and it emits a muffled, friendlier honk that workers internally call “the hybrid hello.” The Nissan Leaf automatically makes noise after you go over 12 miles an hour.

Lotus Engineering has created a “spaceship-sounding” system that can be installed in the Prius. As Green Car Reports notes, the legislation would allow for a common set of standards, rather than than a motley crew of approaches attempted by various automakers.

One opportunity for automotive marketers and startups is the emerging business of supplying drivetones, the automotive equivalent of cell-phone ringtones. Want your green car to rev like a Ferrari or BMW? Just buy the right drivetone and crank up the exterior volume.

There’s been some argument over whether or not the legislation is really necessary — if the original government study was wrong, then maybe not. But if it’ll make pedestrians safer at no great cost to the electric car industry, it’s hard to see how this will hurt beyond the annoyances of government bureaucracy.

Either way, it looks like fictional drug warlords will be out one weapon.

This story, written by Iris Kuo, was originally posted on VentureBeat's GreenBeat, an editorial partner of GreenCarReports.





 
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  1. I am a pedestrian and bicycle rider, I don't own a car. I have been looking foreword to electric cars as a way to cut down the noise.
    The implication of this article is that it is the responsibility of the pedestrian, or the blind person to avoid getting hit by a car.
    The responsibility should be on the driver of the car, not the pedestrian.
    Plenty of noisy cars, suv's and pickup trucks have run me off the road on my bicycle.
    Currtently, at least, the drivers most friendly to pedestrians and bicycles are the Prius drivers. The kind of person who drives a Prius, also respects the lives of bicyclists and pedestrians.
    We don't need another law.
    Enforce the ones we have.
     
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  2. making cars that produce some noise DELETES the need to "enforce" a law.
     
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  3. Edit check.
    "The Nissan Leaf automatically makes noise after you go over 12 miles an hour."
    Think you meant to say it makes noise below 12 MPH.
     
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  4. Edit check.
    "The Nissan Leaf automatically makes noise after you go over 12 miles an hour."
    Think you meant to say it makes noise below 12 MPH.
     
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  5. I give the author credit for posting the link to the original NHTSA article. Wonder if anyone has bothered to read it.
    The analysis it very thoughtfully done, but methodology seems a little strange. Obviously there are more ICE than HEV cars on the road. Therefore there are more ICE/pedestrian or bicycle accidents than HEV accidents. So you need to normalize the data in some way.

    My guess would be you would normalize by the number of vehicles of each type registered and/or the number of vehicle miles driven. The report does neither.
    They normalize by the total number of accidents. As a result, the claim that pedestrians are more likely to be in an accident with an HEV seems about as likely as saying hybrids are less involved with other type of accidents. Also, it is possible that pedestrians are less likely to be hit by a hybrid, but because of the normalization used, you cannot tell from the data.
    Additionally, we are talking about something like 50 cases or less of accidents between pedestrians and HEVs, and less than 25 accidents between bicycles and HEVs. Not to minimize the human suffering involved, but teasing out a staticaaly significant result from such a small sample would be difficult.
     
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  6. I think this illustrates the danger of looking at accident statics too carelessly.
    Please, take care of yourself this Christmas. A recent joint study conducted by the Department of Health and the Department of Motor Vehicles indicates that 23% of traffic accidents are alcohol related. This means that the remaining 77% are caused by idiots who just drink coffee, carbonated drinks, juices, milk, water, and stuff like that. Therefore, beware of those who do not drink alcohol. They cause three times as many accidents. This message is sent by folks who care about your well being.
    Merry Christmas!
     
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  7. I drive a Tesla Roadster. From personal experience, this noisemaker stuff is total nonsense. If the car is going slow enough to be quiet, it's so slow that (a) it's not a threat, and (b) everyone has plenty of reaction time. Any faster than that and it makes plenty of tire noise.
     
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  8. Yes because drug dealers will not mod-their cars to make them quiet. They obey all the other laws why wouldnt they obey this one.
     
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  9. Oh goodie. Instead of our downtown streets being a blend of fairly uniform noise which we can kind of ignore, we have the possibility that it will sound like the midway at a 4th of July carnival. Imagine being in a room where dozens of people's cell phones are all ringing at the same time. That cacophony is what our streets will sound like if people can install their own "drivetones".
     
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  10. The sound of tires on the road are generally louder than the engine noise of regular combustion engine vehicles, unless the car is moving so slowly that it is not a threat to pedestrians anyways. And if the engine is running at a low enough speed, which is what would be happening for low speeds, it's entirely possible to miss hearing the sound of the engine until it's literally inches away from you (I've actually seen this happen). Should this law then also require that mufflers be outlawed in combustion engine vehicles?
     
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  11. Once they make laws that require cars to make certain tones/noises, that clears the path for them to make laws that forbid them from making certain tones/noises.
    This is bad.
     
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  12. Forcing car manufacturers to install them is one thing. Making it illegal to drive them without them is another. I don't like the first but I'd be up in arms over the second because I can always disable a noisemaker. Aside from that, we shouldn't be harboring stupidity - everyone learns to look both ways before crossing the street and we don't need laws enabling the people who forget to try to keep themselves alive.
     
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  13. Regarding EV noise, there has been one interesting and well done study.
    Google "Quieter Cars and the Safety Of Blind Pedestrians: Phase I"
    It is interesting, in 1 out of 3 scenarios tested, the HEV was much more detectable than the ICE car due to regenerative braking noise.
    Look at Table ES-1. Average Times-to-Vehicle-Arrivals (seconds)
    It also shows that detectability of all cars decreases as ambient noise increase (as one would expect.)
     
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  14. Oh great. Some Congressman watched an episode of Weeds and now we have another ridiculous law cluttering the books.
    1: It should be the responsibility fo the driver to watch for pedestrians, and 2: Didn't anyone ever tell you to look both ways before crossing the frigging street?!
    I drive a Prius, and the only time it's completely silent is when I'm going 12-13 miles an hour or less. Finally some progress is made toward making cities quieter and less polluted and they have to start messing it all up. Perhaps if people took the stupid music earbuds out of their ears they might hear something. I don't know how many times I've ridden my bicycle down a path and had to literally yell at the person blocking the trail because they're off in their own little world. Is the government require that I install a noisemaker on my bicycle? This is ridiculous, bloated legislation.
     
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  15. "Green cars like the Prius don't make noise when running off their batteries."
    Huh? What have you been smoking? They certainly DO make all sorts of noise, from drivetrain to inverter to plain ol' tire tread whine.
    I can hear one coming a half-block away--and my hearing is terrible.
    Let's fix problems that need fixing!
     
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  16. Once again Govt overreaching, how much money was spent on this nonsense? Yes we have problems but really is this high on the list?
     
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  17. As a pedestrian I thought a year ago that it's only a matter of time before electric cars are required to make some kind of noise. They sneak up on you - yes they make some noise, but very little and it's easily drowned out by ambient noise in a city. And the point that a car going less than 10 miles an hour isn't a danger to people is just plain wrong.
     
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  18. Telephone companies add small levels of occasional noise to telephone lines so that the connection does not appear to be dead when there is a lull in the conversation.
     
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  19. This is stoopid!
    Some of the quieter IC car engines you can't hear
    whether the engine is idling or not.
    (with some even with the hood up)
    Should they also be required to make more noise?
    The rest of the world has pedestrians that look out for cars before walking in front of them.
    (but they don't have as many attorneys as we do?)
     
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