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In a week where many mainstream media outlets are claiming electric cars are prohibitively more expensive to own than gasoline counterparts, a team of Swiss researchers have released conclusive data showing that the environmental impact of the electric car is much less than most gas cars.
As any EV advocate will tell you, electric vehicles are extremely green when fuelled from renewable energy such as solar or wind power. In fact, ignoring any carbon impact of manufacture, you can argue such electric cars can be zero emissions.
Electric cars charged from non-clean power sources, such as gas, oil and coal are less polluting than gasoline cars, but for those who remain unconvinced of the benefits of the electric car there is a claimed sinful side to the EV.
Batteries.
If some of the most vocal anti-EV spokespersons are to be believed, mining the minerals and metals used in electric car batteries are much more damaging to the planet than any gasoline car.
Thankfully, it turns out they are wrong. Making an electric car really doesn’t take up as many of the earth’s resources as previously thought.
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ev enthusiast Posted: 8/31/2010 3:42pm PDT
Bill Posted: 9/1/2010 10:18pm PDT
ev enthusiast Posted: 9/2/2010 7:28am PDT
you obviously work for nissan. what info or web site can you direct us to, regarding future evs from nissan ? i read awhile back that there are i think 3 other ev models soon to join the leaf ?
curt Posted: 9/2/2010 8:10am PDT
Its takes 7KWH of energy to produce 1 gallon of gas. Why do you think they run refineries at night?
Crunchy Steve Jay Posted: 9/2/2010 10:09pm PDT
Greg Posted: 9/3/2010 3:16am PDT
Rob Outside Posted: 9/3/2010 11:00am PDT
Rob Outside Posted: 9/4/2010 6:45am PDT
miles per uk gallon 40 (just for an example)
Litres/100km 7.0625
Petrol energy/L 34.8 MJ
Petrol Energy for 100km 245.775 MJ
Petrol Energy for 100km 68.27 KWh
(See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency)
BEV for 100km (including 80% charging losses and recuperation gains) 14.1 KWh
Heating, cooling, and electronics for 100 km 2.9 KWh
Total BEV 17 KWh
(See http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/es903729a)
Based on these figures, you'd need a petrol car of 160mpg to match the energy inputs of an electric. You can, of course make the argument that you need to take account of the generation and distribution losses. If you are going to do that you need to take account of the well, transport, refinement and distribution of the oil (and maybe things like the mining of the coal). But why bother. From a personal point of view, they are both delivered locally and you could argue what you pay is what matters.
Diesel isn't much better:
Diesel energy/L 38.6 MJ
Diesel energy/100km 272.6125 MJ
Diesel energy/100km 75.72 KWh
Heine (DK) Posted: 9/7/2010 5:39am PDT
i have just calculated that if i used 1 gallon of gas on my normal gas powered ciao i can go 150km (94 miles).
On my Electro Ciao if i had a 7KWH battery i could go 290km (180 miles) on a full charge!!!!
Deek Posted: 9/8/2010 7:53am PDT
I'm confused about the statement:
"running an electric car with lithium-ion batteries for 100,000 miles results in three times more pollution from the energy used to fuel it, if a mixture of fuel sources such as nuclear, coal-fired and renewable similar to those found in Europe are used."
Three times more than what? More than a gas car equivalent? Maybe I lost your sequence of discussion.
OBTW, I love the 7 KWHR value to refine a gallon of gas. A 200 WHR per mile EV will get 35 miles on that 7 KWHR. Displace that gallon of gas load from the electric grid and put it in an EV instead for 35 miles of driving. We won! ZERO impact on the grid! We'll blow out a transformer or two along the way, but, the utility company periodically replaces eguipment anyway from storms, changing load patterns, and age anyway.
Deadkennedys Posted: 9/30/2010 11:47am PDT
plus what is the cost of the Lithium Ion battery/how long do they last? not per charge...multiple charges as lithium-ion batteries have a limit on the number of times htey can be recharged, and with every charge cycle, it loses some of its capacity..what happens to the overall range of the car?
I myself am a car and motorsport fan, as I do have bias with my love of engines Ill be honest, but I cant see lithium ion batteries changing the automotive industry, fuel cells, or even hydrogen combustion seem to be a more effective technology to really change how cars are run.
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