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GM To Build All-Electric Cars Again: A Very Few, Just For Tests

 
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The big news in green cars today will be the noon release of pricing and ordering information for the 2011 Chevrolet Volt, GM's upcoming range-extended compact electric car.

But GM had more noteworthy news today, all the way from the other side of the world.

General Motors, the company pilloried for "killing the electric car," is going to build a (very) small number of battery electric vehicles.


So why is this significant? Because GM has been remorselessly touting the benefits of the Volt's range extender engine, which adds 300 more miles on gasoline to its 40-mile electric range.

And because the company hasn't built a full electric car since its late, lamented EV1 two-seater a decade ago.

Global demonstration fleets

At the World Expo 2010 Shanghai today, Karl Stracke, GM's vice president of global vehicle engineering, announced that the company will set up demonstration fleets of various battery-electric vehicles in different regions.

GM's goal is to obtain real-world data on how drivers actually use electric cars, looking at driving patterns, time and frequency of battery charging, and customer reactions to driving EVs. The company will partner with suppliers and government partners to share the costs.

First 2011 Chevrolet Volt built on production tooling at Detroit Hamtramck plant, March 31, 2010

First 2011 Chevrolet Volt built on production tooling at Detroit Hamtramck plant, March 31, 2010

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Rigorous reliability testing for components

Components being tested include lithium-ion battery packs and the software that controls them, the electric motors that power the vehicles, and both the power electronics and control systems to make all the pieces play together.

Ensuring that those components can stand up to the most rigorous usage that customers can devise will be critical in giving EVs a reputation for reliability early on.

GM has a growing body of real-world test data from the Two-Mode full hybrid systems it's sold in full-size sport utilities and pickup trucks for three years now, but its most recent data for battery electric cars--from the EV1--is almost a decade old.

And the EV1 was never fitted with the lithium-ion cells that will power future all-electric vehicles and an increasing number of hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and range-extended EVs like the 2011 Chevy Volt.

GM expects the data it gains from BEVs to apply to battery, motor, and controls development for the other three types of electric-drive vehicles as well.

Three regions, not including the U.S.

The relevant section of the press release concluded, "Additional details about the battery-electric vehicle demo fleets will be announced in the future."

We pressed GM spokesman Brian Corbett for more details and, while he was tight-lipped, he added a little more color to this rather dry statement of intent.

There will be three regions involved, Corbett said, adding that the BEV fleets will not be tested in the U.S., at least initially.

He called the fleet of BEVs "smart and targeted" at answering specific questions about usage patterns, and reiterated that GM wants to spread the costs, the risks, and the learnings with its technology partners.

2010 Chevrolet New Sail, sold in China

2010 Chevrolet New Sail, sold in China

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200 to 600 cars? Nah...

Will the GM fleet total the 200 to 600 vehicles used by other makers--BMW's fleet of 600 Mini E conversions, for instance, or the 600 prototype Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrids now being tested? Corbett demurred, saying it would likely be "smaller than that range."

The vehicles to be tested are highway-capable models sold by GM in various regions throughout the world. Would U.S. drivers recognize them? One vehicle will be "one that is marketed here," said Corbett, though the U.S. won't be a test area to start.

GM's Chinese joint venture, known as Shanghai GM, will finish developing an electric version of its Chevrolet New Sail minicar by the end of this year.

It's also worth noting the persistent rumors that GM might develop an all-electric version of the Chevy Volt within a few years after that car's launch as a 2011 model.

Meanwhile, we expect to hear more about GM's plans within weeks. Corbett said he hoped the vehicles involved and the various technical partners for two of the three regions to be chosen might be announced as soon as next month.

[General Motors]





 
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Comments (14)
  1. they will have no choice, but to build bevs. this is true for every car company out there. it wont be long before no one will buy anything but a bev.
     
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  2. So fricken maddening. No more studies are needed. Build them and they will come. Sheesh...this is just more obfuscation and delay from the masters.
    BTW - the EV1 was such a great car and way ahead of it's time....imagine 140 to 160 miles range with durable nigh batteries....what a great commuter.
     
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  3. GM did this in 1990 with the "impact", when they tried to avoid building the EV1 the first time; CARB forced them to produce a limited "TEST FLEET" of EV1, 500 of them for the first "build". GM used bad batteries, refusing to use the existing Nickel batteries which they had aquired control of in 1994. GM was a liar then, and it's a liar now.
    LOOK AT THE NEW GM, SAME AS THE OLD GM.
    The only thing GM is "testing" is the gullibility of dumb reporters and the patience of the public which was forced to subsidize their management FAILURES and continuing support of gas-guzzling SUV junkers.
     
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  4. This is crap..I will never buy another GM product!!! It sucks that we have to buy from forgein automakers if we want an EV. Why did the tax payers have to bail them out again?
     
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  5. The tinfoil's a little tight there ain't boys?
    GM has to concentrate on building quality higher MPG cars for the masses at the moment. It's need for this thing called a "profit" mmm Ok?
    They might build some plastic electro thingies for the whiny people as soon as they can spare the bucks.
    Those of us that forked over to keep them alive would prefer they pay us back first.
     
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  6. I agree with LB45. We'll see true EVs from GM, just as soon as Ford and Nissan sell a bunch of them or the Volt takes off. Until then, it makes sense to hedge their bets and guage demand. That's what Toyota is doing as well. They said "No EVs" a couple of months ago. After the Leaf pre-sold well, they started quietly working with Tesla on a RAV4.
    I disagree with EV enthusiast. EVs don't make sense for everybody right now. I think their percentage of sales will steadily rise. But, there will be some gas-burners around for a long time to come.
     
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  7. that was a pretty good hedge. you are agreeing with me more than you might like to admit. i didnt say they make sense for everybody right now. probably only about 90%. the main problem is that much of that 90% doesnt know that YET. wait 2-3 years, when we have a good supply of bevs out there for people to look at, and that problem will quickly disappear.
    my comment about only buying bevs was geared towards NEW CARS. used gas cars will be sold for quite awhile, but they will be at giveaway prices. i dont expect to have any resale value on my 2004 that i just bought. but this is why i went used - i dont want any more money in a gas car than was necessary.
    cuz i saw the writing on the wall - LOL.
     
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  8. Call me what you want but my purchasing dollars will go towards a reasonably priced BEV. Then I will brag to no end so that when everyone that see’s it will want one to. We have been very fortunate to have relatively low gas prices over the past couple of years. But as soon as our economy starts recovering gas prices will creep back up to $5 a gallon and demand for Plug in hybrids and EV’s will skyrocket. Your so called “money making” cars will sit in the dealer lots as liability’s….
     
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  9. What "studies" does GM need to do ffs? GM is a technological and corporate dinosaur, but a dangerous and ir-responsible one, kept alive only through massive North American taxpayer subsidies. The only reason GM still gets any press on EVs was there roll in burying the superior NimH battery along with there oil-company partners. Ignore these retards at GM, the future does not belong to them. Let them play there games with there studies and test fleets and there hydrogen fuel cell scam. Our industry have all the data, and technology that it requried to build perfectly acceptable EV,s its existed for decades actually. You should have GM out of its misery when you had the chance...
     
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  10. you dont need to worry about gm - they cant hold anything up.
    it may occur sooner, but in 10 years, the sale of a new gas car will be a novelty item. it is going the same way as the 8-track and cassette before them.
    10 years is a long time to see maturity in the ev market. prices will decrease a lot, range will increase. by then they will probably be putting the motors in the wheels of at least some of the premium cars, etc. etc.
     
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  11. during that same period, as gas car sales dwindle - prices will actually start to increase because of loss of volume. parts will not be as plentiful. many more gas stations will have closed. eventually, people will be getting range-anxiety from gas cars.
    the bottom line is that the ev is a much superior product. just like the cd is much superior than an 8-track.
     
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  12. ev ev enthusiast - I agree and 30 years from now we will be talking about how there was a gas station on every corner back in 2010...
     
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  13. LOL - it is the same story. i am sure the horse and buggy guys said the same stuff 100+ years ago. after you see it happen over and over again with many other products, it is a no-brainer to "figure out".
    i plan to keep my car until it is no longer useful. but i suspect it will become obsolete before it doesnt work. parts are harder to find. mechanics who work on gas cars are harder to find. etc. etc.
     
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  14. Ev enthusiast is right!We are seeing the last moments ofthe oil industry!From now on it's down the drain for them!I think 20 years will mean a 50% reduction of oil sales,with a high probability of complete dissapearance by the end of our lives.We may even see a ban on gas engines in 40 years.
     
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