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Ian Clifford is the CEO of Toronto-based Zenn Motor Company (ZNN.V). His company has a unique relationship with the secretive and fascinating Texas startup called EEStor. EEStor was founded by Dick Weir and Carl Nelson who have worked in hard disc manufacturing for decades. Ten years ago they first began promoting a new energy storage material they created and obtained patents on. The material represents what would be understated as a highly disruptive technology. It has the potential to store extremely large amounts of energy in a very small size and weight, that could be packaged into batteries that could propel cars for hundreds of miles. These batteries would have no leakage of current, recharge extremely rapidly, operate over a wide range of temperatures and have an infinite lifetime as they are not subject to degradation as lithium ion batteries are. And if that isn't enough they cost a fraction of what lithium-ion batteries do to produce and depend on a far more abundant natural resource, barite.
The electric car universe has been waiting for this breakthrough material to arrive for years now, but according to Clifford that day will be very soon upon us.
Zenn Motors has the exclusive right to use the batteries called EESUs in vehicles up to 1500 kg and for retrofitting existing 4 wheel vehicles with what is called a ZENNergy drive powertrain.
In recent weeks EEStor publicly proved their material had the permittivity they claimed and Zenn confirmed it with their own third party testing. Clifford noted this milestone "triggered our $700,000 payment to make on our technology agreement with EEStor, and it also triggered an option to further extend our equity position with EEStor which we did."
"We moved our ownership stake from around 3.8% to around 10.7% and at the same time we also just concluded a 9.3 million dollar equity raise in Zenn Motor Companies," he said.
Asked if these permittivity milestone increased Clifford's confidence in EEStor he said "Absolutely. According to EEStor it was really the last scientific hurdle achieved and now they’re just flat out working towards commercial product. "
Clifford confided that his company frequently visits EEStor's Austin production plant and notes "we see their progress on a regular basis."
"They started their commercial buildout in 2006 and have continued to dramatically ramp up their production capability," he says. "The unique thing than Zenn other than Lockheed Martin has is access to the facility and the very demonstrative indication of their progress. And we see very clearly where they are at and how they’re progressing. So it’s a somewhat unique visibility that we have on their technology."
About the plant Clifford notes "this is a full production facility here."
"Often people are saying there is no facility or assembly line but this is simply not the case," he says. "They’re building a state of the art pilot production plant that is very significant. Lots of people have seen it, it’s not just us."
Clifford won't say if he's seen working devices because of a non-disclosure agreement, and won't say how much capacity the EEStor plant might have. He does note "it's very very scalable. They build a relatively small production line, then replicate that line. So they don’t build massive amounts of line. They basically take a small model line and they replicate it over and over and over again to increase volume." Clifford says this strategy is typical for how hard-discs are manufactured, indicating these batteries have analogous architectural features.
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By clint Posted: 7/20/2009 5:34am PDT
Let's do this already!
By Chris O Posted: 7/20/2009 5:44am PDT
I am skeptical Zenn has a highway capable car that they can just plug the EESU into. If Zenn's R&D budget (per google finance) is $250K per quarter, that seems impossible.
If EEStor demos the energy density in September, that will be huge for Zenn. I don't know how likely that is either. Why didn't they do it when they tested permittivity?
The one hand continues to clap.
By Dave Fleming Posted: 7/20/2009 7:43am PDT
By nasaman Posted: 7/20/2009 8:08am PDT
http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/#comments
By CSGuy Posted: 7/20/2009 5:04pm PDT
But that is true of all the breakthrough technologies. We'd still be walking if no one invented the wheel. Sailing ships used to be the only way to transport cargo from Europe to the Americas. Steam powered vehicles dominated up to 1920 or so.
By mo Posted: 7/21/2009 11:09am PDT
They're not baking muffins here...these things take time. If I was working on a technology that could make me billions, I'd probably be very secretive too.
By Waldo Posted: 7/21/2009 1:41pm PDT
I hope that you don't own any ZENN stock. I wouldn't want anyone to accuse you of stock manipulation.
There is nothing new in this interview/article. Another half-promise from Ian Clifford that a production prototype of the EEStor ultracap will be delivered to ZENN "by the end of the year" (again!). How many times has he promised this before? Two or three times?
By bob Posted: 8/26/2009 6:45pm PDT
How convenient that Canada is also a hot bed of white collar crime and gutless and incompetent policing and prosecution..home of such upstanding businessmen as Conrad Black and Bernie Ebbers who were unfortunate enough to ply their trade in the U.S.
I am not saying that EEstor /Zenn is a scam. I don't have enough evidence of that. I am just saying Canada is fertile ground for just such a scam if it were to exist.
By fathers day gifts Posted: 10/27/2009 9:59pm PDT
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